Sunday, July 26, 2015

Trafalgar Ancestors database at the National archives UK

There are 11 Blake males listed on The Trafalgar Database (https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/trafalgarancestors/) including five from England, four from Ireland, one from Wales and one from America.

David Blake aged 22 born in Newcastle.
Ship: HMS Victory
Rank/Rating: Able Seaman
   
Service details
Comments: From: Woolwich Tender
HMS Victory
Ship's pay book number: (SB 399)
11 May 1803 to 15 January 1806 (Was at Trafalgar)
Rank/rating: Able Seaman
Comments: prest
HMS Ocean
Ship's pay book number: (SB 274)
17 January 1806 to 14 April 1809
Rank/rating: Able Seaman
HMS Ville De Paris (1)

Prisoner of War #840 serving on HMS Friends, 7 Sep 1813 (2)
   
Sources used
(1) The National Archives (UK): Catalogue reference: ADM 36/15900
(2) The National Archives (UK): Catalogue reference: ADM 103/465 (part 1)

Jacob Blake aged 30 born in America.
Ship: HMS Revenge
Rank/Rating: Able Seaman
   
Service details
Comments: From: Utrecht, Dowry prest
HMS Revenge
Ship's pay book number: (SB 487)
14 June 1805 (1)
   
Sources used
(1) The National Archives (UK), Catalogue reference: ADM 36/16545


James Blake aged 20 born in Manchester, Lancashire, England.
Ship: HMS Royal Sovereign
Rank/Rating: Landsman
   
Service details (1)
          
HMS Royal Sovereign
Ship's pay book number: (SB 527)
1 March 1805

He is possibly the James Blake, 22 of Manchester who is listed on a Trinity House Petition - series 1 Book 11 page 17 (2)
     
Sources used
(1) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 36/15755
(2) Find My Past, Trinity House Petitions, Series 1 (copyright Society of Genealogists)


James Blake, aged 24 born in Donegal, Ireland.
Ship: HMS Colossus
Rank/Rating: Landsman

Service details (1)
HMS Colossus
Ship's pay book number: (SB 187)

Sources used
(1) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 36/15825


James Blake, aged 21 born in Sidmouth, Devon, England.
Ship: HMS Minotaur
Rank/Rating: Ordinary Seaman

Service details (1)
HMS Minotaur
Ship's pay book number: (SB 491)

There is a James Blake living at Stoke Damerel on the 1851 English Census born at Maker, Cornwall so not likely the correct one but he was born in 1782. I did not find a James Blake born at Sidmouth or closeby to that area looking at Find My Past.  

Sources used
(1) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 36/16055


James Blake aged 17 born in Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, England
Ship: HMS Leviathan
Rank/Rating: Landsman

Service details (1)
HMS Leviathan
24 June 1804
Comments: Volunteer

Ship\s pay book number: (SB 1715)
25 June 1804

Also found on Find My Past under Merchant Seaman  I found a long list of Blake males includes a number of James Blake but not this man will have to go back in and collect these another time.

Sources used:
(1)The National Archives: Catalogue reference: ADM 36/15837


John Blake, aged 29 born in Wexford, Ireland.
Ship: HMS Leviathan
Rank/Rating: Able Seaman

Personal details:
Notes : will and power to wife 15 March 1804

Service details (1)
HMS Leviathan
Ship's pay book number: (SB 1139)
23 November 1803
Rank/rating: Ordinary Seaman

24 November 1803

Sources used
(1)The National Archives, Catalogue reference ADM 36/15837


John Blake, aged 28 born in Dublin, Ireland.
Ship: HMS Naiad
Rank/Rating: Able Seaman

Service details (1)
HMS Naiad
Ship's pay book number: (SB 137)

Sources used
(1) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 36/16799


John Blake aged 16 born in Swansea, Glamorgan, Wales.
Ship: HMS Bellerophon
Rank/Rating: Boy

Service details (1)

Comments: from Salvador Del Mundo, United Brothers, Volunteer

HMS Bellerophon
Ship's pay book number: (B3C, no 30)
29 April 1805 to 17 December 1805 (was at Trafalgar)
Rank/rating: Boy

Ship's pay book number: (SB 868)
18 December 1805 to 2 February 1808
Rank/rating: Landsman

Comments: Run 2 February 1808 Plymouth, Devon, England

Sources used
(1) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 36/16498


John Blake aged 40 born in Catdown, Devon, England.
Ship: HMS Sirius
Rank/Rating: Yeoman of the Sheets
   

Personal details

Notes

TNA catalogue reference ADM 73/2 records that John Blake was admitted to Greenwich Hospital as an in-pensioner on 11 April 1811.
     
Service details
           
HMS Alarm
11 January 1794 to 6 May 1794
Rank/rating: Able Seaman

HMS Veteran
7 May 1794 to 13 October 1796
Rank/rating: Coxswain and Yeoman of the Signals

HMS Duke
14 October 1796 to 10 April 1798
Rank/rating: Yeoman of the Signals and Boatswain's Mate

HMS Europa
11 April 1798 to 26 September 1799
Rank/rating: Boatswain's Mate

HMS Temeraire
27 September 1799 to 5 October 1802
Rank/rating: Yeoman of the Signals and Boatswain's Mate

HMS Sirius
Ship's pay book number: (SB 108)
7 October 1802 to 8 May 1807 (Was at Trafalgar)
Rank/rating: Yeoman of the Signals

HMS Madras
9 May 1807 to 11 February 1808
Rank/rating: Able Seaman

There is a John Blake baptized at Torbryan Devon son of John and Mary Blake 1 Apr 1764 (3).
     
Sources used
(1) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 36/16854
(2) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 73/2
(3) Devon Baptisms 3066a/PR/1/2, South West Heritage Trust, viewed on Find My Past


Robert Blake aged 22 born in County Wexford, Ireland
Ship: HMS Prince
Rank/Rating: Landsman

Service details (1)

HMS Prince
Ship\s pay book number: (SB 131)
13 April 1804 

Sources used
(1) The National Archives, Catalogue reference: ADM 36/16274

DNA and Surname Studies

I gave a Google Hangout on Saturday for The Surname Society on DNA and Surname Studies and promised to share it with my blog. I belong to both The Guild of One-Name Studies and The Surname Society. My world wide one-name studies are at the Guild and my localized one name studies are at The Surname Society.

http://www.kipp-blake-families.ca/TSS-Hangout-25Jul2015-DNA%20and%20Surname%20Studies.pptx

Slide 1
Title Page (PLCGS is an acronym for Professional Learning Certificate in Genealogical Studies which I obtained from The National Institute for Genealogical Studies which was based at the University of Toronto in the Faculty of Information Studies when I graduated in 2007 in England and Canadian Studies.

Slide 2
List of Useful books for DNA and Surname Studies

Slide 3
I find this useful to add as I want people to realize what they may learn from DNA testing and how one should approach this rather novel and progressive way of looking at your genealogy. Personally it was the advent of DNA testing (and my cousin's prompting as he wanted a profile of my emigrant Pincombe family for a local history book) that really brought me into genealogy as I felt that I could actually prove my ancestry.

Slide 4
Useful abbreviations

Slide 5
I like all the testing companies that I have used. I do not have any actual preference as they have all served the purpose that I had in mind when I tested at them.

Slide 6
Getting into the nitty-gritty now, I suggest that if anyone wants to join a project that you manage you should let them unless they really do not carry the surname that you are looking for at all or do not belong to the particular haplogroup of which you are administrator/co-administrator.

Slide 7
My summary of the talk to follow. The first six slides were a warmup to get into the topic itself. From this point the slides assume some knowledge of the different types of DNA although I do give a brief overlook.

Slide 8
List of the DNA that I am going to look at and for the moment is the DNA tested by the companies at which I have tested either myself or my brother.

Slide 9
Y DNA or the Male line in one's ancestry. Our father may be known (as in my case) or unknown to us but the Y DNA which the sons of any particular male carry traces his line back generation upon generation to the first individual who carried that exact genetic signature (although a few mutations could have crept in through the centuries).

Slide 10
Autosomal DNA which is contributed to by all our ancestors although they may not all show up in the resultant set that we receive because that is the luck of the draw one might say. I believe that autosomal DNA is now coming into its own and is quite important in DNA projects.

Slide 11
X chromosome is the mate to the Y chromosome in males and females receive an X chromosome from each parent. In males there are a limited number of people who will match you because your X chromosome is solely from your mother so is entirely her side of the family and excludes her father's father's line. but does include her father's mother's line since that is the exact chromosome which he has passed to his daughters. Perhaps not useful for Surname Studies but could prove interesting on occasion when sorting through matches.

Slide 12
Mitochondrial DNA probably has very little use in Surname Studies but I do mention one and that is geographic location for emigrant ancestors. Really not pertinent if you already know where your ancestors lived but in the case of people whose ancestors emigrated in the 1600s (or long before that actually when one looks at the First Peoples to the Western Hemisphere) as a married couple the mitochondrial DNA might point to a location where the particular haplogroup subclade is found.

Slide 13
Case Studies to be examined include my husband's Kipp/Kip one name study and two of my one name studies Pincombe and Blake.

Slide 14
My husband has been running his KIPP/KIP study at FT DNA for over six years now. His purpose was to find the genetic signature for this rather interesting family. His own line goes back to his 2x great grandfather Isaac KIPP who was born in 1764 likely at Northeast Town in Dutchess County where he is found on the census with his wife Hannah in 1790 living next to or with his father in law Jonathan Mead. Was this KIPP family the New Amsterdam family from the late 1630s (emigrated from Amsterdam Holland) or was it one of the KIPP families that was naturalized in the 1750s coming from the Germanic States. These two groups are the ancestors of many of the KIPP/KIP families in North America.

Slide 15
I then discussed the KIPP study and the members and that the study determined that this was not a singleton surname by the Y DNA results.

Slide 16
A list of the first 12 markers found for the New Amsterdam family and the significance of DYS426 being 13 in this family grouping thus separating this KIPP/KIP family from the other KIPP families in North America. There are differences in CDYa/b which it is hoped will permit separation of the three sons of the original emigrant or perhaps sons of those sons. That is still being worked on as this part of the study slowly grows.

Slide 17
 I summarized the comments above noting that one of the other study groups has similar results in the first 12 markers except for the significant DYS426 which is 12 in that family but they also have other differences which results in a Genetic Distance of 6 or 7 on 37 markers. Hence they are not the same family in a genealogical timeframe. My husband has done a lot of research on Dutch records now and has determined that at least prior to 1600 (and not sure how far back before that time) this family lived in the border area of Denmark/Netherlands/Germany although in the territory known as The Netherlands at that time.

Slide 18
One of my pet recommendations to anyone in a surname group that I am involved with is to encourage them to join the relevant haplogroup project for their surname. The administrators of the Haplogroup projects have been very aggressive in putting together fantastic phylogenetic charts of their members and I include an image that I wasn't able to show yesterday due to technical problems at my end.



This particular chart is for my Blake line (Blayke) and note that CTS4122+ separates my Blayke from Blake beside it. The interesting part of all of this is that my grandfather worked with the ancestor of this tester in the Train Yards at Eastleigh and they wondered if they were related. Probably not in a thousand years one might suspect. But interesting to see how the administrators are putting together their information into charts into a genealogical timeframe.

Slide 19
A second case study and this one for my PINCOMBE/PINKHAM one name study. This slide talks about some of the people who have tested and how these results looked. As a result of the first two items I decided to set the Y DNA study aside for several years. The third bullet item brought it back to life again and the fourth bullet item provides a short historical reference to a will that I have transcribed and how it might work into the story of bullet three.


Slide 20
This is my PINCOMBE family tree from my grandfather back to his furtherest back known ancestor (lived at North Molton, Devon). The black arrow marks the most recent common ancestor for the PINCOMBE tester in Australia and myself. John PINCOMBE (b 1808 Bishops Nympton, Devon) is my emigrant ancestor.

Slide 21
I talked about the problems that I had with this PINCOMBE/PINKHAM single surname study. Mostly it is the small group of testers and no matches. My history of this family is known back to about 1485 but the other testers are looking at the latter part of the 1600s for their furtherest back ancestor. I found some interesting earlier history for the PENCOMBE (spelling used by the earliest PINCOMBE at North Molton, Devon) family in Herefordshire in the 1300s. At the time of the mismatch I also noted that the surname PINKHAM was found in Devon/Cornwall earlier than 1485.

Slide 22
My PINCOMBE/PINKHAM study was an inherited one from an earlier researcher to whom I am not
related as far as I know. The earlier study had been deposited at the Society of Genealogists, London, England, UK and the original researcher Dr Richard PINKHAM (Gloucestershire) had begun this study prior to WWII when he first collected his information including abstracting the wills at the Devon Record Office (bombed in WWII and all records destroyed). I do not want to undo 50+ years of research; I do not mind incorporating new material into the existing study. So I adopted a wait and see attitude as my method of resolving the conflict mentioned in Slide 19.

Slide 23
Resolving such a difficulty may not occur very quickly and there are several other ways to look at a study anyway so I continued (and still continue) collecting documental evidence for the PINCOMBE/PINKHAM family. I blog about the Pincombe family and with my own success with Family Finder and PINCOMBE/PINKHAM really encourage any female PINCOMBE/PINKHAM to test with Family Finder and join the project. Then luck enters into the equation and the match in Sweden is certainly very very interesting especially as his haplogroup is not very common in Sweden (more common in the British Isles).

Slide 24
Autosomal DNA has played a role in the PINCOMBE/PINKHAM study as I have two different matches one with a known fourth cousin and one with a known third cousin once removed with our common ancestor being in the PINCOMBE family. I mention that finding a descendant of the John PINCOMBE and Johane BLACKMOORE family would add greatly to the study and prove this line although the paper proof is probably more than adequate (I have transcribed the entire set of parish registers at Bishops Nympton) the DNA verification is always exciting as well.

Slide 25
The BLAKE/BLEAK study is the final case study in this presentation looking at Y DNA principally with a little autosomal mentioned. The actual Y DNA study if administrated by Bill BLEAK although I am a co-administrator along with two others. This study although begun in 2004 is still in its infancy. Interesting results are coming out of it but more testers are needed. With such a large surname 50+ testers is not enough to really draw a lot of conclusions. I publish the Blake Newsletter four times a year and report on the DNA progress of the study there.

Slide 26
A little background on the Blake one name study.

Slide 27
This Case Study looks at the descendants of a group of families - PARLEE/ALLEN/FOLKINS and I mention GedMatch as being a good site to enter your results and collect your matches by surname if possible or at least by matches.

Slide 28
More on the PARLEE/ALLEN/FOLKINS families and they descend from United Empire Loyalists brought to New Brunswick by the British following the American Revolution. I propose that as you put known cousins into the Chromosome Browser start marking portions of the Chromosome as belonging to a particular surname if possible. As you acquire more and more members it may be possible to find particular areas that are specific to a surname and then when unknown but likely related people join you can predict their lineage by their matches. An interesting way to look at surname projects I think.

Slide 29
Talked about mitochondrial DNA project and I am involved in two - the T haplogroup project and the H11 project. both at FT DNA.

Slide 30
H11 Haplogroup phylogenetic chart (build of February 2014). I have over 100 members in my study with their full genetic scan and a couple of these subclades appear to belong to particular areas in Europe (Europe includes both East and West). My own haplogroup H11a2a1 appears to be NorthWestern Europe and primarily the British Isles). The haplogroup H11a2a2 is primarily an Eastern European group. H11b1 appears to be mostly Eastern Europe extending into Central Europe.

Slide 31
Mitochondrial DNA is not really useful in Surname studies except perhaps that a location of an emigrant couple might be discovered.

Slide 32
X chromosome studies is again the least useful in Surname Studies. Males have limited matches so might prove useful on occasion.

Slide 33
Quick review of the benefits and drawbacks to Y DNA studies although I think that testing your paternal line is absolutely essential and any drawbacks are really very unimportant. How to attract members is always a problem but publicizing your study is the best means.

Slide 34
A query slide with my email but I should mention my knowledge of DNA is limited to the above.

Slide 35
List of suggested books and I do own them all and find each of them to be most useful.

Slide 36
Thank you for reading this far!



Joanna Shepherd (1752 - ?)

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 30

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, Woodcock, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Joanna Shepherd was baptized 7 June 1752 at Kimpton, Hampshire the daughter of William and Joanna Shepherd. A William Shepherd was buried 12 Jan 1786 at Kimpton aged 78 years (birth year circa 1708). Is this the father of Joanna? He would have been 48 years of age when she was baptized. I haven't found a marriage for William Shepherd to Joanna.

Joanna Shepherd married John Alderman 13 Jan 1772 at Kimpton. Their daughter Hannah married  Charles Coterill 23 Oct 1824 at Kimpton. Their son William Cotterill married Jane Sherwood 21 Feb 1852 at Kimpton.

I did find one interesting baptism for a William Shepherd son of William Shepherd 27 Mar 1735 at Collingbourne Kingston. However he would likely be too young to be the father of Joanna.

Joanna's date of death/burial is unknown to me but she does not appear on the 1841 census at Kimpton. 

Ancestry of Joanna Shepherd:

1. William COTTERILL (b 12 Jun 1825) - Kimpton Hampshire England
2. Hannah ALDERMAN (b 2 Aug 1789) - Kimpton Hampshire England
3. Joanna SHEPHERD (b 7 Jun 1752) - Kimpton Hampshire England
4. William SHEPHERD


Tuesday, July 21, 2015

Ada Bessie Cotteril Rawlings aka Edith Bessie Taylor

My grandmother Blake was always a shadow figure in my life as she died 5 years before I was born. I knew a lot about her actual life, what she liked to do, her character and her known relatives. But when I tried to find her in the records  prior to 1891 that proved to be an impossible task. She just appears in the records in 1891 as the daughter of William Taylor and his wife Elizabeth. Searching for their marriage  around 1876 was also non productive. Then, bolstered by my courses at the National Institute  for Genealogical  Studies, I started collecting information on her siblings four in number although only three survived to adulthood. Buying their birth registrations led to the discovery of their mother  Elizabeth's  maiden name Rawlings. That let me find the marriage of William and Elizabeth in 1882. With that piece of knowledge I knew then that my grandmother had likely been born out of wedlock and was not likely the daughter of William Taylor. He would have been 17 years of age when she was born. I further proved this to be unlikely as he was some distance from Kimpton in this time period. Plus he was not listed as her father although did sign the marriage registration as a witness when Edith married Samuel Blake my grandfather.

I then purchased the marriage registration for William Taylor and  Elizabeth Rawlings and her father was William Rawlings. Locating Elizabeth on the census in 1861 and 1871 I found her mother Elizabeth and her siblings but could not find Elizabeth in 1881 and still can not find her. I searched on William instead and up popped the 1881 census with the youngest sons David and Sidney and a grand daughter Ada Rawlings five years old born at Ludgershall. Finding the birth registration for Ada proved  to be remarkably easy  and I waited for yet another certificate. Looking today at Find my past for my grandmother born in 1876 is interesting as there are seven hits for Ada Rawlings born in 1876 but six are easily eliminated because I know she was born 1 April 1876 and thus is the only record that matches.

For some reason I am completely untroubled by my discovery. Illegitimacy  does not hold any horrors for me. Finding my grandmother back in 2005 proved to be a catalyst for all the research that has followed. I discovered that you really can prove your line. Unfortunately it is not likely possible to determine her haplogroup. My father was her only child. She had one half sister but thus far I have not found a female descendant. The Rawlings line quickly fleshed out back to the mid seventeen hundreds  and a recent post proposes  a further jump back in time. William Rawlings married Elizabeth Lywood and the Lywood family has been well researched as a one name study by Warwick  Lywood  who has taken it back into the fifteen hundreds.

The last few 52 Ancestor Challenges have looked at the possible ancestry of my grandmother's  natural father. The father she knew and dearly loved was William Taylor and I considered  just letting her never be found by me in my recordings. The Taylor family was her family.  My grandfather  had very efficiently laid out an ancestry for her that appeared to be quite solid but I could not find a birth registration that fitted. Was I being unfair to her memory? I finally  decided after l revealed her ancestry to all my siblings and they were excited  that she was found that her memory was better served by truth than fiction. We love her just for being our grandmother  nothing else matters. A few Cotterill, Cotterell, Cottrell matches on the various databases that I have tested tell me I am likely right but I will wait to see if they contact me.

I am mostly  of the opinion that one's  familial ancestry determines who you are really. One's  genetic ancestry may or may not coincide but it can not include those wonderful personal anecdotes that make up the story of a family. We genealogists in this time and place have a wonderful opportunity to tell the stories of our families in amazing ways for future generations that gives flesh to the bones. Our DNA is also wonderful to include and gives us both recent and deep ancestry.

In total I have now found two illegitimacies in my ancestry. Both occur in the same line. My grandmother's  grandmother was also illegitimate. I suspect that her father was a soldier during the Napoleonic Wars. Martha Peck  married George Lywood a veteran of Waterloo and was the mother of Elizabeth Lywood married to William Rawlings. Not telling us the true story of our grandmother lost us the story of George at Waterloo. That story  has now returned  to our family history.

Monday, July 20, 2015

Upcoming Presentation

Although it has been my stated intent not to do any more lectures I will be doing a Google hangout for The Surname Society next Saturday. The title  will be DNA and Surname Studies. I am gradually stepping down from my involvement in this society as well. The next issue of the newsletter will be my last. I would like to do some database work for both the guild of one studies and the surname society. But any involvement in either executive is ending.

In reality it has been the entry of DNA into genealogy that has drawn me into genealogy although the initial push came from my fourth cousin George Dekay. He wanted a
Pincombe profile for the Delaware and Westminster  history books published almost ten years ago now. I was reticent to take the project on. I did do so and my forays into genealogy began.

My husband and I first tested our DNA in 2006 in order to be part of The National Geographic Project. We were interested in our deep ancestry and my husband was keen to discover his Kipp line which has a brick wall at his 2nd great grandfather Isaac Kipp who was born in 1764 and came to Canada in 1800 as a settler with his wife Hannah Mead and four of their five sons. He has been studying his families for nearly 40 years.

I really expected to find that my mitochondrial line would be a fairly usual English one but surprises were in store for me. At the NG project I tested as H haplogroup with three differences from the Cambridge Reference Standard. The option to take my results into FT DNA was offered  and I did do that only to discover that I had very few matches - 5 actually. One of them had done further testing and was H11. Interest kindled  and so I did further testing and I have now done everything available. I have tested at Ancestry and 23 and me as well.

Very busy the rest of the day. Will share the presentation.